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		<title>By: The problem with the argument for greater lenience and leeway for leaders &#124; Managing Leadership &#124; Managing Leadership</title>
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		<dc:creator>The problem with the argument for greater lenience and leeway for leaders &#124; Managing Leadership &#124; Managing Leadership</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 15:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The lack of consensus on what leadership is makes it difficult to discuss &#124; Managing Leadership &#124; Managing Leadership</title>
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		<dc:creator>The lack of consensus on what leadership is makes it difficult to discuss &#124; Managing Leadership &#124; Managing Leadership</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 06:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Why leadership characteristic lists do not create leaders - Part One &#124; Managing Leadership &#124; Managing Leadership</title>
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		<dc:creator>Why leadership characteristic lists do not create leaders - Part One &#124; Managing Leadership &#124; Managing Leadership</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 05:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The basic assumptions in the concept of individual leadership &#124; Managing Leadership &#124; Managing Leadership</title>
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		<dc:creator>The basic assumptions in the concept of individual leadership &#124; Managing Leadership &#124; Managing Leadership</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 05:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jim Stroup</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Stroup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 13:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve,

What a great story! It just drives the nail right home! I hope (and am confident, with your presence) that this fellow comes out of this situation okay.

It&#039;s a bit of a dilemma, isn&#039;t it, when, as sometimes happens, the problem you&#039;re asked to fix is actually the solution!

Thanks again so much for your visit, your illustration, and your work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,</p>
<p>What a great story! It just drives the nail right home! I hope (and am confident, with your presence) that this fellow comes out of this situation okay.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a bit of a dilemma, isn&#8217;t it, when, as sometimes happens, the problem you&#8217;re asked to fix is actually the solution!</p>
<p>Thanks again so much for your visit, your illustration, and your work.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Stroup</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Stroup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 13:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michelle,

Thanks for your visit and your observations. I always find them incisive, cutting right through to the issue at hand. 

Thanks also for your reference to Elliot Jaques (a website dedicated to his work can be found &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.requisite.org/main.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;). A very interesting person and career, who produced real, applicable theory and insight from what might be considered an unlikely background in psychoanalysis. I will try to use your mention of him as occasion to learn more from his thinking.

I agree with and appreciate your focus on the work, and the issue of developing the ability to do it, rather than transcendant personality characteristics.

Thanks again, and please keep up your good work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michelle,</p>
<p>Thanks for your visit and your observations. I always find them incisive, cutting right through to the issue at hand. </p>
<p>Thanks also for your reference to Elliot Jaques (a website dedicated to his work can be found <a href="http://www.requisite.org/main.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>). A very interesting person and career, who produced real, applicable theory and insight from what might be considered an unlikely background in psychoanalysis. I will try to use your mention of him as occasion to learn more from his thinking.</p>
<p>I agree with and appreciate your focus on the work, and the issue of developing the ability to do it, rather than transcendant personality characteristics.</p>
<p>Thanks again, and please keep up your good work!</p>
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		<title>By: Why you cannot pick leaders based on leadership characteristics &#124; Managing Leadership</title>
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		<dc:creator>Why you cannot pick leaders based on leadership characteristics &#124; Managing Leadership</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 11:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] We wind up getting people who are, as they say in Texas, all hat and no cattle. Moreover, we can be so seduced by form that we throw substance out the window. There can hardly be a better example of this than was provided in a timely and insightful comment to yesterday&#039;s post, made by Steve Roesler, author of All Things Workplace. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] We wind up getting people who are, as they say in Texas, all hat and no cattle. Moreover, we can be so seduced by form that we throw substance out the window. There can hardly be a better example of this than was provided in a timely and insightful comment to yesterday&#8217;s post, made by Steve Roesler, author of All Things Workplace. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Roesler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Roesler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 06:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terrific series here, Jim, and personally meaningful at the moment. Here&#039;s why:

I was asked to &quot;coach&quot; a very successful executive and, in the process, do the obligatory 360 with reports, colleagues, etc. His boss (CEO) made it clear that this guy is a winner and just needs to smooth out they way he deals with certain people. 

Is he belligerent? No.

Is he disrespectful? No.

Do any of his behaviors negatively impact results or the ability of others to do their jobs? No.

So what&#039;s the issue? 

The guy is results-oriented, aware of deadlines, and can tell the difference between excuses and valid reasons. 

The company gave execs an assessment tool that indicated he scored low on a particular characteristic &quot;important to leadership&quot;. Meaning that there is an underlying sociological value system driving the notion of &quot;good&quot; and &quot;bad&quot; leaders.

However, his people would follow him off of a cliff and the colleagues who do get upset (once in a while) allow that he&#039;s just an achiever who adds more to the company&#039;s profitability than any other single individual.

If he starts becoming a kinder, gentler executive (according to the definitions in the assessment) he will also lose his effectiveness.

The craziness has got to stop.

Thanks. I feel better now :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terrific series here, Jim, and personally meaningful at the moment. Here&#8217;s why:</p>
<p>I was asked to &#8220;coach&#8221; a very successful executive and, in the process, do the obligatory 360 with reports, colleagues, etc. His boss (CEO) made it clear that this guy is a winner and just needs to smooth out they way he deals with certain people. </p>
<p>Is he belligerent? No.</p>
<p>Is he disrespectful? No.</p>
<p>Do any of his behaviors negatively impact results or the ability of others to do their jobs? No.</p>
<p>So what&#8217;s the issue? </p>
<p>The guy is results-oriented, aware of deadlines, and can tell the difference between excuses and valid reasons. </p>
<p>The company gave execs an assessment tool that indicated he scored low on a particular characteristic &#8220;important to leadership&#8221;. Meaning that there is an underlying sociological value system driving the notion of &#8220;good&#8221; and &#8220;bad&#8221; leaders.</p>
<p>However, his people would follow him off of a cliff and the colleagues who do get upset (once in a while) allow that he&#8217;s just an achiever who adds more to the company&#8217;s profitability than any other single individual.</p>
<p>If he starts becoming a kinder, gentler executive (according to the definitions in the assessment) he will also lose his effectiveness.</p>
<p>The craziness has got to stop.</p>
<p>Thanks. I feel better now <img src='http://managingleadership.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Michelle Malay Carter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle Malay Carter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 17:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim,

I couldn&#039;t agree more with you on this one.  Elliott Jaques spent his whole career arguing for a consistent management science lexicon and then went about creating one.

He defined leadership as the ability to set purpose or direction for others and then get them to move along in that direction with competence and full commitment.  

Leadership is an accountability of all managerial roles.  There are certain skills, practices, and tools that can help one achieve this, but no inherent personality characteristics are required.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim,</p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree more with you on this one.  Elliott Jaques spent his whole career arguing for a consistent management science lexicon and then went about creating one.</p>
<p>He defined leadership as the ability to set purpose or direction for others and then get them to move along in that direction with competence and full commitment.  </p>
<p>Leadership is an accountability of all managerial roles.  There are certain skills, practices, and tools that can help one achieve this, but no inherent personality characteristics are required.</p>
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